Many have come and gone (see other comments).What to conclude or predict from these observations is another discussion.Thanks for the update, Hayseed. The pastoral position is not subject to “reaffirmation” (“vote of confidence” cannot be taken).Women must not preach, or teach (men specifically), or have a position of authority in the congregation. As the years went on he became nor expedition and more controlling. ]All things considered, Hall and his flock seem to be headed for a crash, either simultaneously or consecutively. None of us know whether or not he contributed to a young mans death by suicide…that’s beyond our knowing. When he first came to the church he is currently in, he was wonderful! A near-levitical interpretation of the Sabbath is proscribed.I’ve wondered about the state of the actual Montana church he leads, how he and its congregants are in the community, the community witness — basically, what the real world he and his IRL followers exist in. He managed to make it to Dublin and visited his old church in Rutland Square. I wouldn’t trust this man to watch my goldfish, let alone indoctrinate and fill my families heads with lies and threats. J.D. Like I said elsewhere all the principles involved have something to live with that is worse than anything we can impose. But the dark secrets behind the walls of the church were not told. Weeping!. ?If you encounter anyone who is that obvious about Theo-Ideological Indoctrination — RUN AWAY! Now you might remember the name J.D. His supporters will surely stand behind him…..just like Driscoll, and others.I think he’s toast…his friends have gotten very quiet.“Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! THERE ARE ARMINIANS UNDER MY BED!”???? I mean really, has even Mark Driscoll done anything to cause actual ‘outrage’?It’s getting to the point where rage is our second tongue.There’s a lot of finger pointing at JD Hall (its justified) but some criticism of his puppeteer Seth Dunn is due also.
It’s like these Neo-Cals want elder led-congregations but still want the pastor to have his little kingdom. Since “None of us know whether or not he contributed to a young mans death by suicide…that’s beyond our knowing,” why even introduce such unprovable speculation it into the article?
No Book of Church Order or church structure for congregations to correct pastors (like they do in Presbyterian Churches), the memorial view of the sacraments, and so on. As a sufferer of intermittent and chronic depression I am grateful for all the things that alleviated my symptoms and made life livable. If I found that a pastor had done to one of our kids what this man did to the young Caner I would have paid him a very quick visit.How does a pastor do something so moronic? [Context: My own history (not current) includes 45 years worth of pentecostal/holiness/charismatic evangelicalism. I hope this finds others well… But I have observed the Neo calvinist acting like the Catholic Church where there is no room for discussion.The Neo-Calvinist Baptist Types are truly despicable (JD Hall is a perfect example). Those who dare speak against him are branded Trolls, Psychopaths, Sociopaths, and a host of other names meant to marginalize and subdue the voices that, when confronting JD with his sin failed to bring repentance, now warn others that he fails the Biblical qualifications of a Pastor . They want just the TULIP and Calvinist soteriology but then add all the Baptist stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hall_(Presbyterian_pastor) Newspaperman Despite his heavy workload, Hall was involved with several activities outside the Fifth Avenue Church, these included being the chancellor of the University of New York – a post he held for ten years; he was a trustee for the On November 29, 1891, a man fired three shots at Hall after he had left the church and was entering his parsonage next door. Hey, I am artistic, does that make me a puss? They have one child. FolksHe is not off the radar. What I want to know is what the fruit is there in the circle of humanity that God placed him in as a pastor, not the online facade.
Hall (born 7 May 1947; age 73) is an actor and voice artist who performed the Klingon com voice in the Star Trek: Enterprise fourth season episode " The Augments ". Many of us left at the same time and were treated poorly for leaving, harassed, and lied about behind our backs by said pastor.
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